Wiki on new server

[Vincent Snijders]

The Free Pascal and Lazarus wiki has been moved to a new server with the same host name, but different IP. Also the wiki software has been upgraded to the latest Mediawiki version.

Because porting the custom Free Pascal skin to the new version was too time consuming the default monoskin is used now. Therefore you will notice changes in its appearance.

[Zoran]

All over the wiki, code is enclosed in <delphi></delphi> or <pascal></pascal> tags. These tags are not recognized by new wiki.

For example, try to read the code here:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Executing_External_Programs#A_Simple_Example,
or http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Multithreaded_Application_Tutorial#Units_needed_for_a_multi-threaded_application
and many more.

[Vincent Snijders]

The need to be replaced by <source></source> or <syntaxhighlight></syntaxhighlight> tags. I made Delphi the default language.

For more details about the highlighter, see the docs.

[Zoran]

The need to be replaced by <source></source> or <syntaxhighlight></syntaxhighlight> tags. I made Delphi the default language.

For more details about the highlighter, see the docs.

Thank you, Vincent. I have just made these corrections on two pages which I used as example in my previous post. Some more effort should be made by all of us to replace these tags in whole our wiki.

[Vincent Snijders]

Thank you, Zoran. I see others have made similar changes too, so I hope the wiki will be good looking soon.

[lainz]

I like the new wiki, the menu is in the left side like in this forum =) Nice consistent look.

[Ocye]

That's good news! In the course of this reorganization I would recommend to introduce some styling to wiki articles. I have in mind:
* classification (to what area belongs a certain topic; the simple "category" structure is too flat IMHO)
* structure (often I'm looking for the unit where a function is defined)
* linking between topics
* implementation sample in visual and non-visual flavor
* usage, best practice.

At the moment most articles are third party contributions. Perhaps I'm wrong and the wiki isn't intended as basic help. I would like to have such a control and pattern library / FAQ / reference / guideline.

BTW: May I vote for a non-animated icon? ;-)

[Vincent Snijders]

That's good news! In the course of this reorganization I would recommend to introduce some styling to wiki articles. I have in mind:
* classification (to what area belongs a certain topic; the simple "category" structure is too flat IMHO)
* structure (often I'm looking for the unit where a function is defined)
* linking between topics
* implementation sample in visual and non-visual flavor
* usage, best practice.

At the moment most articles are third party contributions. Perhaps I'm wrong and the wiki isn't intended as basic help. I would like to have such a control and pattern library / FAQ / reference / guideline.

It is a wiki intended as basic help, written largely by the community. Feel free to improve it.

BTW: May I vote for a non-animated icon? ;-)

Use the lazarus wiki.

[eny]

The need to be replaced by <source></source> or <syntaxhighlight></syntaxhighlight> tags. I made Delphi the default language.

For more details about the highlighter, see the docs.

This should have been done automatically, as part of the move to the new platform.
It's absurd to do this by hand.
For example I created two tuts to get going with Lazarus and now the text is unreadable, the articles unusable and the time and effort I spent writing them largly waisted.
 

[DirkS]

The need to be replaced by <source></source> or <syntaxhighlight></syntaxhighlight> tags. I made Delphi the default language.

For more details about the highlighter, see the docs.

This should have been done automatically, as part of the move to the new platform.
It's absurd to do this by hand.
For example I created two tuts to get going with Lazarus and now the text is unreadable, the articles unusable and the time and effort I spent writing them largly waisted.
 

Yes, it should have been changed as part of the change-over, but I think you are over reacting. It takes less than a minute to change a page.

I actually changed the one you link to in under 30 seconds: went in edit mode; copied the text to my editor and did one search and replace ('delphi>' to 'syntaxhighlight>'). Then copy the new text to the wiki editor and save... done

Gr.
Dirk.

[eny]

I actually changed the one you link to in under 30 seconds: went in edit mode; copied the text to my editor and did one search and replace ('delphi>' to 'syntaxhighlight>'). Then copy the new text to the wiki editor and save... done

Good point; I missed that one.
Nevertheless it would still be highly appreaciated if it were done automatically for the many other pages that are still out there.
There really is no excuse for leaving the pages as distorted as they are now.

[BigChimp]

Wouldn't using something like

Code: [Select]

sed -i 's/<delphi>/<SyntaxHighlight>/'
sed -i 's/<Delphi>/<SyntaxHighlight>/'
sed -i 's/<pascal>/<SyntaxHighlight>/'
sed -i 's/<Pascal>/<SyntaxHighlight>/'
sed -i 's/</delphi>/</SyntaxHighlight>/'
sed -i 's/</Delphi>/</SyntaxHighlight>/'
sed -i 's/</pascal>/</SyntaxHighlight>/'
sed -i 's/</Pascal>/</SyntaxHighlight>/'
be possible?

Or something like
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Replace_Text

Replace Text is an extension to MediaWiki that provides a special page to allow administrators to do a global string find-and-replace on both the text and titles of the wiki's content pages

By default, only members of the 'sysop' user group have access to the Replace Text functionality.

... can't tell if this works on the wiki source or the resulting text only.

Personnally, I've spent a lot of effort in improving wiki pages and even writing some of my own.
I do appreciate the effort involved in maintaining and moving the wiki, but I'm not exactly raring to go to rewrite all those nicely formatted code samples.
Then again, if the pages I've edited are useful, I'm sure people will start rewriting the code tags... and I might join them....

By the way, I prefer the new look as well because the search/navigation components on the left make it easier to switch between forum and wiki...

Edit: code, comment on layout

[Vincent Snijders]

sed doesn't work on database fields, so it would be done on a database dump. I am a bit worried it might replace too much.

[Vincent Snijders]

I installed the ReplaceText extension and did the replacement on a couple of pages. Please review the result. If it is ok, I wil do the replacement on all pages.

[eny]

I installed the ReplaceText extension and did the replacement on a couple of pages. Please review the result. If it is ok, I wil do the replacement on all pages.

Which ones?